superjon your a personal trainer, dang I wish you lived around my area. My wife and I could use some tips. I lift weights run, eat no fat, very little sugar and I can't lose that last bit of fat around the old gut. Is it impossible once you get over 30?
You know we used to work out with a guy they referred to as Big John that worked at our local gym, but he quit the gym and went someplace else.
I'm into the whole fitness thing along with comic books. It sort of goes together in a way. Read the comics then try and look like a super hero.
Oops, sorry to change the subject by the way. __________________
Hey Tim, if you are trying to lose weight around the mid-section then you might want to take a leaf out of a man called Serge Nubret, he is in the movie Pumping Iron with Arnold and Louie. In the movie they tell you his age is 41 but in actual fact he is 36 and the interesting fact is after the age of 35 he never trained with heavy weights only light weights with a lot of reps and short rest periods. I am not sure if it was Flex or Musclemag or Muscle & Fitness did an interview with him a couple of months ago and he looks outstanding for a 66 year old. I to got into weight training to look like the superheroes aswell and I am getting closer to it these days since changing from heavy weight sessions to lighter, more reps and only about 60 seconds between sets. Anyone who trains naturally should be doing 10-12 reps per set because that is what the ACSM recommended a couple of years ago. It is only people who are heavily into sports who need more specific low rep/high weight stuff, Pros, semi-Pros and top amateurs, the ones who want to stay fit just need to do some homework about it. I think we are sort of still on the subject aren't we, afterall we want the superhero body, yes?
Posted: 24 Sep 2005 19:10
Registered User Currently Offline
Posts: 4892
Join Date: Apr 2005
Today I went from heavy bench to lighter weight more reps in shoulder and other exercises. I tried sprinting today but my wife injured herself so we decided to just lift weights.
Everytime we try sprinting she injures her legs. I guess we'll have to stick to jogging.
I read somewhere that sprinting increases levels of hgh. Is this true? __________________
He didn't hve his resume up on the Warner's website. He had his own website, and on his personal website, and on the resume section of his own site he listed all of the jobs he did. He sculpted the body suit for Hellboy I believe too. And he had the Superman suit listd and then when someone in Hollywood outed that there is a padded suit under the clothing, which you can tell by looking at it, people found his site. But Warner's didn't want people to know that Brandon was wearing a paded suit, so Warner's asked the guy to remove it from his resume page. They probably told him that if he didnt they would not let any of their productions hire him for anything more, so he took it of. But there is a muscle suit under hat thing. Routh is not that big.
Posted: 25 Sep 2005 10:58
Registered User Currently Offline
Posts: 596
Join Date: Jun 2005
Hey buggs0268, the photos on Brandon's website show that he does have a good build but if they did put him in a padded suit then it can't be that well padded because he hasn't got that much muscle definition so the maker should be ashamed for announcing that sort of stuff about his own work. The first Batman suit was better than that and did you know that they were going to have a padded suit for Chris in S1 but the director, Rick Donner, didn't like that idea. Tim, it would be a good idea to start slowly with sprinting drills because they put a lot of stress on the muscles and joints, 15 to 20% more than most people think. The thinking behind Serge's change in training was to work at a high intensity without the risk of heavy weights damaging his joints, tendons and ligaments. Arnold used the same kind of training method for T3, 4 x 15 and a 30 second rest period which I have tried and it is very hard to maintain the programme intensity. The main diference between Arnold and Serge was that Arnie used steroids and Serge didn't
Posted: 25 Sep 2005 15:21
Registered User Currently Offline
Posts: 4892
Join Date: Apr 2005
superjon so using the Serge method of lots of reps was he then able to rip up then I guess. The hardest thing I see with my workouts is as we got older it's harder to look ripped. I'm determined though I used to have a ripped stomach when I was a kid so I'm going to get it now by golly.
On the costume thing. I can't imagine why they wouldn't want Routh to be as big as possible unless gaining muscles would mess up the computer effects. You know if he changed size during the movie it would cause some of the scenes not to match up possibly by the time they got to the end. I heard the same problem happened with Reeve. By the time they got to the end of the picture he was so much bigger certain scenes had to be reshot. If you have the latest Superman movie dvd. You can tell he's thinner on one of the Jor-El Fortress of Solitude add on scenes that wasn't in the original release. __________________
Yes Tim you can try Serge's training but I would recommend 60 seconds rest not 30 because it is very hard to maintain that kind of intensity throughout the entire workout if you are not use to it. I, personally, have used a 60 second rest period between sets for 18 months using nothing above 70% of my max. weight on any of my exercises and have gotten my physique to a 75-80% match to what Toby Maguire was for Spider-man 1, 5'10" and 170-175 lbs. On your comments about Brandon not getting to big then I would have to say you are probably right because they know a lot more about nutrition/training methods and the human body's response to that nutrition/training methods today than what they did 20 odd years ago. I think if anyone can find shots of Chris shirtless or in a tanktop from about 1977 and compare it to Brandon now then everyone would be able to see what I am talking about. They are 2 different men with 2 totally different types of builds so the comparison just isn't worth it.
Posted: 26 Sep 2005 16:54
Registered User Currently Offline
Posts: 4892
Join Date: Apr 2005
I wish I could get that skinny I'm 184 lbs but I'm only about 5'8 or somewhere around there. One of these days I'm going to have to take a karate class. That ought to burn the calories and fat.
Oh here's a good question for you. Let's say I worked out as if I were training for a show and gained a lot of muscle mass. Let's say I had to train 4 hours every day. That's a lot of training to keep up with for the rest of my life. So once I settle back down to 2 hour workouts what would happen to my muscle mass. Would I start looking all droopy or would I retain the repped look, or is that a matter of genetics which depends on one's skin elasticity?
I figure I can work out as long as it takes to gain enough muscle to make myself look the way I want, but what concerns me is maintaining that look for the long haul. __________________
Well Tim here's the thing I used to weigh about 182lbs and in about a 4 month period I lost 10lbs but everyone around me thought I had lost 25lbs because I had gotten a lot of the body fat off of my waistline which gives the appearance that you have lost significant amounts of weight. My advice is if you are working for more than an hour and a half, 1 hour on weights and 20-30 minutes on cardio, you are going to hurt yourself. The reason most of the big boys train for such lond periods at a time is that they are more than likely using steriods which means they can maintain a high intensity for a longer period of time than someone who is clean due to the fact that the steriods speed up catabolic recovery between sets. The training methods the movie stars are put on for superhero roles can be weight sessions combined with specific types of cardio to give them the desired superhero look. I know that some of them say they workout 4-6 hours a day leading into the movie but I am willing to bet those workouts are broken apart to reduce the risk of injury to the star and they would also get massages after every workout to help with recovery. If you want to talk some more about different training methods I use then send me an email, jec8472@yahoo.com.au, ok.
Posted: 29 Sep 2005 20:14
Registered User Currently Offline
Posts: 91
Join Date: Sep 2005
I would just love to take that suit and clean the toliet with it, and then throw it in the garbage where it belongs.
Posted: 27 Oct 2005 20:00
Registered User Currently Offline
Posts: 28
Join Date: Oct 2005
the suit still sucks, however, It;s grown enough on me enough that's it's earned my respect. However, just because it's earned my respect, doesn't mean that it could have been a hell of a lot better, like this...
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/5405/promo1myversion4ue.jpg
Posted: 31 Oct 2005 02:57
Registered User Currently Offline
Posts: 20
Join Date: Sep 2005
nice to see you here kak
Posted: 31 Oct 2005 20:03
Registered User Currently Offline
Posts: 39
Join Date: Oct 2005
What the hell,
Why is anyone even downing the new Supe Suit. If anyone of you ppl who are talking down on it had a chance to play the role yourself and you got to put the costume on yourself and you were now looked at as Superman you would not be saying anything, so lets give it a reat and wait till June to see what happens. Given Tom Welling should have had the part or the colors of the suit could have been brighter, so on and so fourth. Whatever happens we are getting to see a 5th Superman movie so lets just hold on and see what happens.
Posted: 31 Oct 2005 20:13
Registered User Currently Offline
Posts: 4892
Join Date: Apr 2005
Point taken eastcoastkid. Personally, though I don't know if I would have the guts to where that costume in public for millions of people to see. Might as well be naked, heck far!
I guess if I got paid a few million dollars I might wear it, but sheesh I think I would rather go with the George Reeves costume if I had to wear it.
Seriously, though like you say it ain't over till it's over so no sense in calling it a flop yet until we actually see it. There is a saying that 90 percent of what you worry about never happens. __________________
Posted: 01 Nov 2005 05:03 Last Edited By: buggs0268
Registered User Currently Offline
Posts: 20
Join Date: Sep 2005
Eastcoast kid. If I had to wear that thing, if I wasn't on contract, I would leave the project. THAT THING IS STUPID LOOKING. There are stupid maroon, pvc like panties. Gardener boots. A stupid small 3-D shield. The cape looks like a shower curtain. The stupid shield on the belt. the whole thing looks like ass. I don't have to wait till the movie comes out to bitch about it when I can see it now.
Posted: 01 Nov 2005 09:27
Registered User Currently Offline
Posts: 596
Join Date: Jun 2005
Don't hold back buggs0268 tell us what you really think. Sorry but I couldn't resist the sarcastic remark. Fair enough you have a right to your opinion eastcoastkid but if I were going to play the role and I didn't like the look of the costume then I would ask for some changes afterall it is Brandon Routh who will recognised as superman not Bryan Singer or the members of the wardrobe department.
Posted: 01 Nov 2005 18:00
Registered User Currently Offline
Posts: 4892
Join Date: Apr 2005
Right superjon most actors would have some control over what the costume looked like, but I got to thinking on that and you have to wonder what a newcomer like Brandon would be able to say. This is his big break. He can't afford to complain. Now if he was established actor, he could have some input into what the costume looked like. If he got fired for complaining too much he'd still have a career. Now once this movie comes out, Brandon might come back with a brand new contract, complaints, and requirements like most actors do on the sequels. __________________
it's not maroon, it's wine red... if it was maroon, I wouldn't have a problem with it
Posted: 02 Nov 2005 04:17
Registered User Currently Offline
Posts: 91
Join Date: Sep 2005
I bet if Buggs said that on the hype board, the suit lovers would be all over him about it.
Posted: 02 Nov 2005 11:27
Registered User Currently Offline
Posts: 596
Join Date: Jun 2005
Yes Tim, if the movie makes enough to warrant a sequel and they continue with Brandon in the role then I am almost willing to bet he will ask for some changes made to the suit because the movie may get good reviews but I don't think the suit will. Like I said it is Brandon who will be recognised as Superman/Clark Kent and the publicity/notoriety that will go with him playing such an iconic character should give him enough nouse to ask for some changes to be made to the suit, if anything brighter colours.
Well I am sorry to say, zod, you must be one of the few on this forum because most of us have one thing they don't like about it. Then there are others like myself, Tim, SCLJ and kakarot069 who have multiple problems with the new suit.
Posted: 27 Dec 2005 14:50
Registered User Currently Offline
Posts: 20
Join Date: Sep 2005
Well I tell you, I am glad it is civil here between those who like the suit and those who don't here. There is another forum where those who like the suit ahve taken over. If you say anthing negative about the suit they jump on you. If you tell people that you were at a party in LA, and industry one, and upcoming movies are the main topic. obviously, these are industry people. And SR comes up, and the suit is mentioned. Someone brings over a laptop with wireless internet and brings up a pic of the suit. everyone in the room hated it. A costume designer who was at the party completely and professionally ripped it to shreds on why every choice made was dumb. Well there was one person who thought it was okay. And I posted that, and once again, if you post something where people hate the costume then you are lying. And then they post in awe that you are mad because they are calling you a liar when you know it happened.
I am so glad this is a place of sanity where we can actually talk and discuss it.
Posted: 28 Dec 2005 12:17
Registered User Currently Offline
Posts: 596
Join Date: Jun 2005
I think it comes down to the fact that we all respect each others right to their own opinion on this board. The suit is starting to grow on me but I still don't like the choice of red.
Posted: 31 Jan 2006 19:19
Registered User Currently Offline
Posts: 57
Join Date: Jan 2006
I'm very disappointed with the costume. I can almost stomach the colors, but what is with the cut of it? It shouldn't fit that way. If you want to change the colors, fine but have it fit like Chris's did! On the bright side, when we see the whole package put together (cinematics-special effects-John Williams score) it may just turn out. I'll keep my finger crossed.
Posted: 31 Jan 2006 19:41
Registered User Currently Offline
Posts: 175
Join Date: Jan 2006
it sucks lol
Posted: 31 Jan 2006 19:56
Registered User Currently Offline
Posts: 183
Join Date: Jan 2006
i guess they just wanted to keep the classic look
Posted: 31 Jan 2006 20:00
Registered User Currently Offline
Posts: 175
Join Date: Jan 2006
thats not classic, they changed i, you mean they didn't want to keep it
Posted: 31 Jan 2006 20:34
Registered User Currently Offline
Posts: 91
Join Date: Sep 2005
Singer said he wasn't going to alter the suit, that he was going to stay faithfully to the Reeve suit. Well, he did alter it.
[img]Superman 12[/img]
