About the time Christopher Reeve died, a woman in South Korea could walk again because of adult stem cells.
With embryo stem cells, there's only help in the future (maybe.) In fact, some people who have been given embryo stem cells shake violently.
Then they turned into hideous mutant freaks who eat people's heads! Okay, I made up that part. But still it does sound like something from a freaky science fiction movie.
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stem cell research should be legal. Bush is an idiot, as if everybody didn't know that already.
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Dude don't get political Zod. There are some very religious and deeply held beliefs of Mr. Bush that pushed him to make his decision against fetus stem cell research.
Adult stem cell research has not been banned. People tend to leave out the important details on the news.
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i knew you'd answear my post tim. but aren't you (americans) supposed to seperate god from state? any religious views he has should not enter the decision making process... especially as his decision affects alot of people.
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Zod first of all the seperation bit isn't even in our Constitution. It was in a letter from Thomas Jefferson to a minister I believe it was.
Second what most Americans believe I hope is that the government should stay out of the church's business not the other way around since surprise, church members are still citizens that do and should vote. I just stood line an hour to vote because I missed early voting this morning.
Third "Adult stem cell research has not been banned. People tend to leave out the important details on the news. "
Adult stem cell research has not been banned. People tend to leave out the important details on the news.
Adult stem cell research has not been banned.
Adult stem cell research has not been banned.
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people leave it out because adult stem cells are not what's needed. researchers say that adult cells are not as flexible as embryonic cells and are less capable of growing into different kinds of tissue. these cells growing into other tissues to heal people are the whole point of stem cell research.
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Quote: Zod first of all the seperation bit isn't even in our Constitution. It was in a letter from Thomas Jefferson to a minister I believe it was.
Second what most Americans believe I hope is that the government should stay out of the church's business not the other way around since surprise, church members are still citizens that do and should vote. I just stood line an hour to vote because I missed early voting this morning.
Third "Adult stem cell research has not been banned. People tend to leave out the important details on the news. "
Adult stem cell research has not been banned. People tend to leave out the important details on the news.
Adult stem cell research has not been banned.
Adult stem cell research has not been banned.
I'm really not trying to make you mad, but I think you missed it the first time I guess.
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Quote: stem cell research should be legal. Bush is an idiot, as if everybody didn't know that already.
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Quote: Bush is not an idiot and the some ways they get embryonic stem cell should most definately be banned. the easiest way is through ambilical cord i would say
yea...Bush is not an idiot...
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It's interesting that people say embryonic stem cells are more flexible, even though people who have been injected with them shake violently.
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Yeah it's been 3 years since his passing. I was truely waiting for him to walk again. He made us believe a man could fly. He was going to make us believe a man could walk again. Bless Chris and his waife Dana.
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Quote: stem cell research should be legal. Bush is an idiot, as if everybody didn't know that already.
He is NOT an idiot!!
Quote: but aren't you (americans) supposed to seperate god from state?
Our constitution guarantees freedom of religion. No where in it does it say there should be "separation of church and state". Look at out currency for crying outloud, it says "In God We Trust". The founding fathers had very strong faith, and fled to this land for freedom of religion, NOT freedom from religion. __________________
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i had forgotten all about this post. i can't believe you people still seem to support bush. what does it take?? i don't really care what your constitution says or doesn't say. that's not the issue. the issue is that laws are being passed that are based on religious dogma. abortions are banned. stem cell research is banned. gay marriage and adoption are banned. why?? cause the bible says it's wrong??here's the deal. the bible is myth. if the only arguement you can offer against these things is religious writings, then you really don't have a case. so for bush to start enacting laws that are based on religious views is indeed idiotic. there are a million reasons not to support bush, i can't believe after everything that's gone on you people still do. clinton gets impeached for lieing about having sex with an intern but you people don't impeach this moron? he lied to the whole country about 9/11, a lie that now has you at war and has cost the lives of thousands of american troops as well as tens of thousands of iraqi civilians. you americans should do yourselves a favor. get out of your gas guzzling, terrorist supporting SUVs, put down the Big Mac, forget about anna nicole, britney, paris or whoever your so called "news" shows are telling you to care about this week, and read a Noam Chomsky book or watch a Bill Maher show. who knows, maybe you'll learn something.
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I don't want to get into a big political thing, but I would like to rebuttle just a couple of things.
I haven't always myself supported Bush, but not for the reasons you have I'm sure. I'm angry that he refuses to pardon border agents who were prosecuted for shooting a drug dealing illegal alien in the butt. It's a long story for more on that
Quote: stem cell research is banned
Adult stem cell research hasn't been banned, and it's been proven more beneficial from what I've read.
Quote: if the only arguement you can offer against these things is religious writings, then you really don't have a case. so for bush to start enacting laws that are based on religious views is indeed idiotic.
I don't think there is any call to be insulting. I could think of a million reasons for what I believe from a secular position as well, but the Bible gives me a standard to go from. I love Jesus, so sue me, and He loves even you and George Bush, so peace bro. I just happen to think God turns out to be right a lot more than those that change with the wind. Would you have us change our beliefs based on the latest political poll?
As far as SUV's I hate them, I'm looking for a muscle car right now. Thinking about a 1970 Pontiac Lemans I just saw for sale with a 350 engine. New paint job, but it might need a few things.
Quote: forget about anna nicole, britney, paris or whoever your so called "news" shows are telling you to care about this week
Personally, I hate that crap. I almost stopped watching the news altogether for a while. I could care less about Nicole, or Britney Luthor.
So naaa!
If you want to argue politics though for any lengthy amount of time. Check this out we've had some humdingers on the politics section of my Captain America site. http://www.captain-america.us/messageboard/forum5.htm
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hey tim. i apologize if i was insulting. sometimes i get worked up. i just feel that the reason most people are against abortion and stem cell research is for religious reasons. they believe that a new life is created the moment conception takes place. they believe that there's a 3rd person in the room with them. they think that god has a special plan for that baby. thats fine. i don't believe that. i think that the baby becomes a living thing when it develops a central nervous system about 3 months into gestation. so if my mother, or sister or daughter gets raped, or if their life is in danger by giving birth, or if they are young and make a mistake, i want the right to get them an abortion if they want one. if they wanna have the baby and put it up for adoption or even if they wanna keep it, they will have that choice. that's what a free society is about. having all the possible choices laid out before them and allowing them to chose. as long as noone is getting hurt. i know religious people will say that the baby is getting murdered but how can you be murdering something with no central nervous system. you saying that the baby is alive is based on what the bible says. and that's why i have a problem with it. if you came to me with scientific proof that the baby was alive the moment the sperm fertilized the egg, then i may listen to what you have to say. but if you tell me it's alive cause a thousands of years old book that's been written by men and interpreted and reinterpreted and written and rewritten in hundreds of languages over the centuries by people who still believed in magic when it was originally written than i would have to disagree. if abortions were legal you would hear alot less of these stories where a 13-14 year old girl gives birth in a bus station washroom, scared to death and all alone, and puts the baby in the trash or leaves it on someones doorstep. i wouldn't go so far as to call myself an athiest, but i read this once and i always liked it. someone once asked a nonbeliever:"what if when you die, you're standing at the pearly gates and God asks you:"why didn't you believe in me?" what would you answear? "not enough evidence god, not enough evidence."he said.
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I see you are an individual that likes to analyze and look at life through the eyes of logic and science. I have one question for you. If there was no Bible, no Christianity, no Moses, no 10 commandments, no story of Cain and Abel, would our society ever have declared murder wrong, or life precious, and if so what would be the reasoning for preserving life? Biblically love becomes the main reason for preserving life, but can logic or science be reason enough to justify effectively the need of a society to preserve and fight for life.
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Quote: i don't really care what your constitution says or doesn't say. that's not the issue.
Um, it is the issue, it's what our country is founded on!!
Quote: the bible is myth
No, The Bible, is a testament of historical facts.
Beyond that, I am not going to get into as Tim hit a lot of points I was going to cover.
Quote: someone once asked a nonbeliever:"what if when you die, you're standing at the pearly gates and God asks you:"why didn't you believe in me?" what would you answear? "not enough evidence god, not enough evidence."he said.
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tim, we will always agree to disagree but i enjoy your posts. but i don't put all my faith in scientists. scaper, i'm happy for your friend. chris rock had a very funny bit in his comedy routine about never suggesting abortion if you've gotten your girlfriend pregnant. i'm not gonna go over it but it's funny. dharvey1031, you kinda took the first quote out of context. second, how can you say the bible is historical fact? so your saying that there was a guy who parted the sea, and that there was a guy who lived in a whale, and a guy turned water to wine and died and then came back from the dead 2 days later and that there were giants and that a guy walked on water and that there was a real garden of eden with a talking snake and that woman was created with a rib and that dinosaurs lived with man at the same time and that the world has only been around for 6000 years?? if it was in the bible that jack had his beanstalk and a mothergoose fairy tale that jonah lived in the belly of a whale...could you tell the difference?? everybody makes fun of scientology and tom cruise (with good reason) but is his religion really anymore ridiculous than any other religions?
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i just wanted to correct myself. i'm not positive that the nervous system develops at 3 months or not. but you could argue that life is created the moment the sperm fertilizes the egg but i should clarify my position because the issue isn't when life begins, the issue is a womans right to choose. but for you guys it's a moral issue. but we don't all get our morals from the same book. the morning after pill and birth control are perfect solutions. unfortunately there are people who want that banned and even pharmacists who won't fill perscriptions. in this day and age. unbelievable.
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There have been many places found on earth where human footprints have intersected dinasour footprints fosilized. Also in South America there is ancient pottery that has been unearthed with animals decorated on it that are identical to T-Rex's yet on these potteries the T Rex drawing have circles on them. Last decade fossil immerged of the T Rex's skin...guess what...they had cirles on their skin...how did people several thousand years ago know this? Oh and Kings fifteen hundred years ago slew dragons bearing three horns...there is an art work of a King from the first century with his foot on a slewn dragon as the king held his victorious sword...yeah it was almost identical to a triceratops.
Also not one piece of archeology has ever disproven the bible either. Also in the dead sea scrolls that were discovered being over several thousand years old..there was a full script of the book of Issaih. This text was not off by one word to the text we have today. The monks took such amazing tasks of keeping God's text so pure that the entire book has not changed by even three letters over three thousand years.
Yet we teach children that life was created in the sea by a lightning bolt hitting a single self created amino acid cell and charged life into it. Yet with all the technology we have today in Labs we can not duplicate it. Yet it's science right!!! HA!!! Never happened never will. The chance of even a single cell creating itself by random chance is next to impossible. yet even if it did come to life the life expenctancy is a millisecond and it would die way before it had time to regenerate itself! So you would have to have hundreds if not thousands of cells come to life all at once by random chance...absolutely impossible. yet for this all the slowly change into muli life forms to the point where today the human DNA (program) YIKES...does that mean there's a programer? Can stretch to the Moon and back if pulled in a line. And this all programmed itself by random chance....and you have scientific proof of this? HA HA HA!!!! That's the best joke of the day!!!
On top of all this you have bible prophicies that have been written thousands of years in advance and have mostly all come true. Every prophecy of Christ was fullfilled thousands of them. Absolutely mathematically impossible for one person to fullfill them all. From never having a bone broken, to birth place, to geneology, to his specific murder, etc.
Also writings given to the Jews over three thousand years ago gave specific instructions on cleanliness. After war all weapons were to be burned in a fire, all clothing to be boiled in water, if someone had decease they had segregated from the society and shaved, specific plant extracts and remedies for ailments (proven scientific today) were to be given to the sick, and on and on...all things were strickly written in God's law to the Jews. Yet this knowledge we have only come to understand in the last hundred years...How did the Jews know of killing germs etc thousands of years ago??? hmmmmm Maybe someone gave them instructions! The black plague in Europe was eventually cured by following the Jewish Laws in the Old Testiment. Pretty Scietific.
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Zod, have you ever watched any of those documentaries on the Bible? There is always someone explaining away miracles like the parting of the Red Sea. They don't try and say they didn't happen, they just try to give some amazingly complicated and unbelievable scientific reason that the sea by nature's own accord parted just in time for the children of Israel to cross over, and just in time fell back down to kill the pursuing Egyptian army. Seems to me the timing of the parting of the sea proves a miracle even if you could explain it away by natural laws. But without a doubt history backs up the Bible in terms of the names of Kings and historical events. No historians that I have heard on the history channel (I watch that channel constantly, I'm a history buff) question the events of the Bible
It comes down to this, to believe the Bible or not to believe is a choice. We could find arguments all day long for the Bible and Zod could find arguments all day long against, but faith comes from the heart.
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Faith is a miracle all unto itself.
Speaking of people walking around with dinosaurs, Scaper you should read one of my Time-Rider books specifically number two. http://superherouniverse.com/timerider/victory/cover.htm You might like it. I mix dinosaurs and the flood together. That's something you don't see in regular science fiction. I get tired of evolutionist views overshadowing comics so I'm doing comics from a different perspective. Every story isn't about the Bible, but when it fits the story I put something in. __________________
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