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SupermanTV.net Forum / Superman / Superman Returns Movie / next villain???

Posted:  13 Aug 2006 05:01
i read that bryan singer originally had zod in the script for superman returns and he was to be played by johnny depp ( who was also considered to play lex b4 kevin spacey finally got the part) perhaps we will see him in superman 2(4). i like johnny depp and i think he'd do a good job as zod. those crystals are still sitting on the krypton island superman threw into space in SM Returns so perhaps lex will get a hold of them and use them to restore zods powers. who would play non and ursa? would they even be in the movie? lex would use kryptonite to control them and make them do his bidding (although that probably wouldn't last too long) anyway, that's just my 2 cents worth.
Posted:  13 Aug 2006 05:22
I hate to burst your bubble, but that's not gonna happen.  Zod, Non and Ursa were killed in Superman II.  Superman zapped all three of them of their powers, making them normal.  Superman threw Zod into a wall and slid to his death, Non tried to fly but fell to his death and Lois smacked Ursa and she fell to her death (this all took place at the Fortress).  Any other theories??
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Posted:  13 Aug 2006 05:25   Last Edited By: brandonluver
Good one Mattro that is true if you watched superman2 would would know/
Posted:  13 Aug 2006 05:44
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Good one Mattro that is true if you watched superman2 would would know/

I own all 4 Superman DVDs, so yeah.  I speak the truth!!
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Posted:  13 Aug 2006 05:58
TRUE TRUE. ALL I NEED IS 3 AND I MAY BE MISSING 4 I HAVE TO CHECK.
Posted:  13 Aug 2006 06:01
SAY, DO YOU REALLY THINK TOM WELLING SHOULD'VE PLAYED IN THE MOVIE SUPERMAN RETURNS, OR DO YOU THINK ROUTH WAS FINE??
Posted:  13 Aug 2006 06:05
yup!!!!!!!!!!
Posted:  13 Aug 2006 06:10
sorry Mattro, i hate to burst your bubble but you are wrong. i've seen all the supermans numerous times so i know the scene you're talking about and, granted, they never really explained what happened but believe me, superman and lois did not kill them. superman doesn't kill. and lois certainly doesn't. besides, i wasn't talking about a rumor, bryan singer really had zod in the original script but took him out because the movie was already too long. no offense, but for you to say that superman and lois killed them is RIDICULOUS.
Posted:  14 Aug 2006 05:36
They didnt physically kill them, but Zod, Non and Ursa fell to their icy deaths.  Superman & Lois just played a small part.  Savvy??
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Posted:  14 Aug 2006 05:56
una problema mattro,

no one ever really "dies" in the comic universe, i'm sure they'd find a way to bring them back.
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Posted:  14 Aug 2006 07:35
Tell you what.  If Zod SOMEHOW returns, I'll worship the ground you walk on till God knows when.  Sound good??
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Posted:  14 Aug 2006 08:56
there was a deleted scene in superman 2 where you see the cops leading the 3 villains away. however, in that same scene, superman also destroys the fortress of solitude and since it's still standing in superman returns, then we have to pretend that scene never happened. my point is, they can still be brought back.
Posted:  14 Aug 2006 10:56
Yes zod99 those scenes are in the Richard Donner version of S2, aswell as numerous other scenes, and I am guessing that Mattro and some of the others mightn't have seen that version. If Lex did give Zod his powers back then the first thing that Zod would do is kill Lex so if he was going to come up with some sort of protection then it would have to be a good one.
Posted:  14 Aug 2006 12:34
Bearing in mind you can only go off the ORIGINAL SII released by Lester it certainly would suggest that zod and co fell to an icy grave.  Whilst the release of the Donner original will show diferent, members of the public would go off the original SII.

The possibility still exists, however, that the release of donners version is being put on shelves so that Zod in singers sequel could work. 

To be fair though, I can't imagine how he would work them back into the story.  They lost their powers and if the police took them away they have been sat as mere mortals in prison.  Lex qould have to reinstate their powers and if there is such a way, then why doesn't he take the powers for himself?
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Posted:  15 Aug 2006 09:34
Too confusing for me.
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Posted:  15 Aug 2006 15:45
Yes but very interrrrrresting. It is sci-fi fantasy comic book stuff after all so anything can be written in to make Zod return.

Who knows here's a weird thought what if Doomsday comes on the scene and the only way Superman can beat him is with the help of the evil Zod. After they defeat Doomsday Supes would have to fight Zod again.
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Posted:  15 Aug 2006 23:10
If no one dies in the comic universe, how do you explain The Joker, The Penguin, Two-Face, Bane, The Green Goblin, & Doc Ock??  And there all comic book villians to!!
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Posted:  16 Aug 2006 00:56
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i read that bryan singer originally had zod in the script for superman returns and he was to be played by johnny depp ( who was also considered to play lex b4 kevin spacey finally got the part)


why the heck would johnny depp being playing zod or lex luthor?

it doesnt seem natural
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Posted:  16 Aug 2006 06:54
i think johnny depp would make a good zod. he's a great actor.
Posted:  16 Aug 2006 10:29
Maybe.
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Posted:  16 Aug 2006 17:05
I like Johnny Depp, but I think he can play a bad guy good, but I just don't think it would be as entertaining to have him play a murderer like Zod. People want to see Depp as a somewhat likeable guy like on the Pirates movies.
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Posted:  16 Aug 2006 20:01
yeah, and besides, hes british! right?

i dont remember zod, or LL for that matter having an accent

that would've been weird
but i really like Johnny Depp


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Posted:  16 Aug 2006 20:33
Nah I don't think Depp is British. He played a lot of American characters anyway starting with a cop in 21 Jumpstreet.
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Posted:  16 Aug 2006 20:35
oh...but he does the accent perfectly

i guess hes just a good actor...
kudos johnny!!


lol
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Posted:  16 Aug 2006 21:16
how bout tom hanks as zod. lol
Posted:  17 Aug 2006 02:11
ummmmm....mabe....

do u rli want tom hanks impersonating ur favorite character zod99?

jk! i dont know if hes ur favorite character
but you have his name!
lol


i found out that johnny depp is american and that his wife is a french supermodel

so...........i was wrong

lol

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Posted:  17 Aug 2006 05:18
just kidding bout tom hanks. but seriously... who do u guys think would make a good zod? he'd have to be older than superman obviously but not too old. someone in his forties at least. how bout sean connery? just kidding. besides, he's in his 70's i think.
Posted:  19 Aug 2006 04:06
Well what about Dean Cain as Zod just to really throw a spanner in the works of the "superman curse". The new big screen superman versus the 90's small screen superman, any takers? What if at the end of the next one superman traps Zod on the new Krypton and then Zod uses the crystals to bring Doomsdays to life so he can destroy the son of Jor-el once and for all. If they did that then they could have Doomsday kill Zod and get rid of him for good. There is your next 2 villians. No dailyplanet Johnny Depp isn't British he is American but he does do a good impression of Keith Richards in the Pirates movies.
Posted:  19 Aug 2006 09:31
That might work.
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Posted:  20 Aug 2006 23:07
Your obsessed with Dean Cain lol

He is a washed-up TV star who would look out of place
in a Superman movie !

What about Jax-Ur instead of always going for Zod ?
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