| Posted: 27 Apr 2005 18:44 |
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Who do you think is the greatest Superman writer?
Do you think John Byrne did a good job revamping Supes in the 80's or did you like Superman better when he was a lot more powerful and the Kents had died before he became an adult? It seems a lot of the stuff that was stripped away during that time period has come back - Supergirl, Krypto, etc
What about Jeph Loeb who is now working on Smallville and the Superman Batman comic book series?
I've really enjoyed the Superman Batman series myself. I love the twists and turns.
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| Posted: 28 Apr 2005 13:48 |
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Writer Eh, well im not too sure. Iv got random superman comics and smallville books by many people but one name sticks out like a sore thumb... I read that Michael Rosenbaum likes to write books, And this one smallville book was by MICHAEL teitelBAUM... thought it was verrry weird!
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| Posted: 28 Apr 2005 16:11 |
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Hmm that does sound mighty coincidental if you ask me.[smirk]
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| Posted: 06 Oct 2005 18:34 |
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Well, I've never really collected Superman comics ... just read the odd ones here and there.
I liked that Byrne gave Supes some constraints, and keeping his family alive gave him more of a center. He wanted a more "mature" comic, so if I remember correctly, there was no Superboy, Superdog, etc. The other nice thing with Byrne is that he wrote a Krypton mini-series, which gave a background of Kal-El's folks, culture, and society, and that influences who he is. Incidentaly, the ethical issues regarding clones was addressed here, way before the movie "The Island". The only thing I didn't like with Byrne was after all that shaking up, I felt he left too early. Also, by toning down the comic book, it made it just a little bit more boring. Let's face it, the early Superman comics were far from realistic, but the covers always grabbed your attention.
I didn't like the Death of Superman arc; I felt it was pure marketing, and yes it did make a huge buzz, but ultimately, it lacked story and didn't become the powerhouse classic it was supposed to be. It was like killing Captain Kirk in Generations; it was supposed to tap into this huge emotional reservoir, but it ended up looking real cheap. When Superman came back, it further lessened the importance of the story arc.
I did enjoy the concept of the 3 (or was that 4?) other Supermen in their own comic books, trying to fill the gap left by Superman. That was very interesting. Don't know who the writers of those were, though.
I guess the renditions of Superman that I really liked, though, were by Miller in Dark Knight and the Smallville (TV) version. As a kid, I also enjoyed a lot of the ones in the late 70's, with the fortress of solitude, the flying car, bizzaro superman, solomon grundy, races with the flash, etc. 
Never read any of the newer, or even stuff from recent years, though.
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| Posted: 06 Oct 2005 18:39 |
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Don't even get me started on the shabby way they killed off Captain Kirk in Star Trek. I'm still ticked about that till this day. Kirk should have went out in a blaze of glory with a army of starships against him in space.
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| Posted: 06 Oct 2005 20:21 |
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Hehe, yeah. When they killed off Spock in Wrath of Khan, that was a great moment (even though they brought him back in the next one). The death of Kirk was wasted; better to just "erase" Generations from official StarTrek lore. 
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| Posted: 06 Oct 2005 23:18 |
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That's a good idea actually. Let's all pretend it didn't happen and Kirk died of old age or will die of old age. Depending on how you look at it, since it hasn't really happened yet.
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| Posted: 07 Oct 2005 05:34 |
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Yep, plus in Enterprise, history's changed because of the time war storylines. That's another series. There were a few really good episodes, a bunch of good ones, a bunch of lackluster ones, and one REALLY LOUSY finale that should never have been made. Let's erase that one too. Just like I don't consider any Highlander after the 1st movie, hehehe.
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| Posted: 07 Oct 2005 17:29 |
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You know I wanted to like Enterprise so much especially with my favorite actor Scott Bacula from Quantum Leap (loved that show). I liked some of the time travel ones especially the one with the Nazis, but it just didn't feel like it was meant to be. Bacula just sort of played emotionless. I wonder if he was trying to imitate Kirk. It was a really good cast too. Maybe the scripts just sucked. I really hate that.
Highlander confused the crap out of me, but I loved to watch them all.
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Enterprise actually had a pretty good cast of characters (and actors). There was good light comedic moments between Trip and Malcolm. The only characters that weren't developed properly were Hoshi and Travis. They also had a few good story arcs, but they also had a lot of really bad or sub-par writing ... if they were gonna spend big on the special effects, they might as well have spent big on the scripts. I also hate that; the story should come before the effects.
Most people who've seen the first Highlander movie before any other highlander (other movies or tv series) end up hating the other movies, and not really appreciating the series, as Duncan was not really "the one", it was Connor. But I suppose those who started with the series have gotten to think of Duncan as "the one".
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I watched the series too so that's another reason the Highlander saga was very confusing. No continuity really was there? The best part for me I guess was the concept of what it would be like to live through all those generations. The history flashbacks were cool.
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| Posted: 08 Oct 2005 19:56 |
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Yeah, they kinda kept changing their minds about the history ...
With the 1st movie, there was no explanation to these beings ... they just were. That's why the song fit it ... "it's a kind of magic". In the end, it was Connor who was the only one left, so he won the prize.
Then in the 2nd movie, they bring back Ramirez from the dead, and explain that these immortals were aliens from another dimension (suckage!).
Then in the 3rd, it turns out that there was still one more unaccounted for (so how come Connor got the prize?) (sucks!!!)
Then in the series, which was supposed to happen before Connor beat the Kurgan in the 1st movie, he trains Duncan. The assumption here is that Duncan will eventually be killed off, since it's Connor who eventually wins the prize.
Then came the next movie, where Connor, Duncan, and other Immortals exist, and here Connor sacrifices himself to make Duncan stronger (another great Captain Kirk moment, hehehe).
But the guy who played Duncan actually did a pretty good job in the series, and there were a lot of interesting stuff in it. But in these Highlander movies/series, forget any kind of continuity ... they kept changing everything on whatever whims they had.
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What were they smoking anyway. Sheesh. I still liked them though. It's a waste of a good concept though to have all those changes in continuity and loose ends. The show was the best for continuity I guess.
There can be only one was a really cool line. Don't you wish they made up their mind which one was the one?
How did they come from space when the dude was like born in Ireland wasn't it? I can't remember how they explained that.
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I don't think they did explain that, but what I do remember is ...
Connor is looking at the slumped over body of a guy who died (can't remember who it was) ... but you can easily tell he was still breathing. Talk about lack of attention to detail.
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| Posted: 18 Oct 2006 09:16 Last Edited By: pakratmak |
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You seem to have forgotten the other Highlander series (Raven I believe-I watched one episode and never went back) and the Highlander cartoon.
If it can make money and the license is affordable they'll make a sequel to anything- look at the Crow films past the first, Omen 4(daughter of Damian-dreck), Freddy vs Jason, etc ad nauseum.
I for one loved both the first and (director's cut)2nd Highlander films and the whole TV series; continuity be damned.
I think we can all be thankful that Uwe Boll sticks to destroying Video Game based scripts and doesn't branch out.
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